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 Post subject: Zillow Zucks
PostPosted: 2006-08-15 14:31:08
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Hi All,

I was really excited about Zillow when it first came out because it
seemed to give pretty good estimates (I thought) and it should be
updated based on the latest sales records so it should track the market
the same way a stock ticker tracks a stock index. Now Im not so sure.

This is just one example, and I plan to look at more, but I found a
house listed in the LA area (Placentia, CA) with a low list price of
$799,500 and a high list price of $849,500. (A range is often given
here for reasons I dont totally understand.)

Anyway, I wondered what Zillow would say, so I popped over to
Zillow.com and its Zestimate of the house value is $904,431 with a
range of $804,944 - $1,003,918. So, basically, it is off by $100,000.
And the error bar is enormous. But that isnt the worst of it.

Zillow shows the prices of houses in Placentia (and all of Orange
County) shooting up in the last couple of months. But I bet that $800k
house sits on the market for a couple of months at that price. I have
been looking at houses lately and, to me, it appears that the prices
have dropped some. Perhaps quite a bit. I dont know why Zillow seems
so screwed up, but it is way, way off.

Darrell


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 Post subject: Zillow Zucks
PostPosted: 2006-08-15 23:51:11
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just a small note: Zillow is still in its Beta wich means even though you
have access too it, its not fully ready for public use.



drphilosopher@yahoo.com wrote in
news:1155677468.902681.9650@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> Hi All,
>
> I was really excited about Zillow when it first came out because it
> seemed to give pretty good estimates (I thought) and it should be
> updated based on the latest sales records so it should track the market
> the same way a stock ticker tracks a stock index. Now Im not so sure.
>
> This is just one example, and I plan to look at more, but I found a
> house listed in the LA area (Placentia, CA) with a low list price of
> $799,500 and a high list price of $849,500. (A range is often given
> here for reasons I dont totally understand.)
>
> Anyway, I wondered what Zillow would say, so I popped over to
> Zillow.com and its Zestimate of the house value is $904,431 with a
> range of $804,944 - $1,003,918. So, basically, it is off by $100,000.
> And the error bar is enormous. But that isnt the worst of it.
>
> Zillow shows the prices of houses in Placentia (and all of Orange
> County) shooting up in the last couple of months. But I bet that $800k
> house sits on the market for a couple of months at that price. I have
> been looking at houses lately and, to me, it appears that the prices
> have dropped some. Perhaps quite a bit. I dont know why Zillow seems
> so screwed up, but it is way, way off.
>
> Darrell
>
>


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 Post subject: Zillow Zucks
PostPosted: 2006-08-16 08:48:36
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Exactly how much did you pay for those comps from zillow?

Nuff said...

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> Hi All,
>
> I was really excited about Zillow when it first came out because it
> seemed to give pretty good estimates (I thought) and it should be
> updated based on the latest sales records so it should track the market
> the same way a stock ticker tracks a stock index. Now Im not so sure.
>
> This is just one example, and I plan to look at more, but I found a
> house listed in the LA area (Placentia, CA) with a low list price of
> $799,500 and a high list price of $849,500. (A range is often given
> here for reasons I dont totally understand.)
>
> Anyway, I wondered what Zillow would say, so I popped over to
> Zillow.com and its Zestimate of the house value is $904,431 with a
> range of $804,944 - $1,003,918. So, basically, it is off by $100,000.
> And the error bar is enormous. But that isnt the worst of it.
>
> Zillow shows the prices of houses in Placentia (and all of Orange
> County) shooting up in the last couple of months. But I bet that $800k
> house sits on the market for a couple of months at that price. I have
> been looking at houses lately and, to me, it appears that the prices
> have dropped some. Perhaps quite a bit. I dont know why Zillow seems
> so screwed up, but it is way, way off.
>
> Darrell
>


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 Post subject: Zillow Zucks
PostPosted: 2006-08-16 15:42:16
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So much ignorance in this world... Were you expecting Zillow to be
accurate?
Zillow uses a computer model that takes into account comps, lot size,
square footage, etc. But thats it (Zillow doesnt price one house at a
time, its a computer-driven formula).

And the Zillow range you report does cover the 800K asking price, so
that Zillow is right in the ballpark. Most of the Zillow range for this
house is over 800K, and thats because we are in a downwards trending
housing market. Prices are going down, so the comps from the last 9
months give you an upper bound, at most.

To be a computer-based system (meaning not a person evaluating each and
every house), Zillow is great. Plus, it tells you the sales history for
your house and surrounding properties. And its free to use.

Zillow rocks! Unless of course, the user is too stupid to understand
its limitations.

drphilosopher@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I was really excited about Zillow when it first came out because it
> seemed to give pretty good estimates (I thought) and it should be
> updated based on the latest sales records so it should track the market
> the same way a stock ticker tracks a stock index. Now Im not so sure.
>
> This is just one example, and I plan to look at more, but I found a
> house listed in the LA area (Placentia, CA) with a low list price of
> $799,500 and a high list price of $849,500. (A range is often given
> here for reasons I dont totally understand.)
>
> Anyway, I wondered what Zillow would say, so I popped over to
> Zillow.com and its Zestimate of the house value is $904,431 with a
> range of $804,944 - $1,003,918. So, basically, it is off by $100,000.
> And the error bar is enormous. But that isnt the worst of it.
>
> Zillow shows the prices of houses in Placentia (and all of Orange
> County) shooting up in the last couple of months. But I bet that $800k
> house sits on the market for a couple of months at that price. I have
> been looking at houses lately and, to me, it appears that the prices
> have dropped some. Perhaps quite a bit. I dont know why Zillow seems
> so screwed up, but it is way, way off.
>
> Darrell


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 Post subject: Zillow Zucks
PostPosted: 2006-08-17 16:26:08
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sim7396@hotmail.com wrote:

> Zillow rocks! Unless of course, the user is too stupid to understand
> its limitations.

Zillow is, at best, useless. But hey, if you want to throw an extra
$100k of your money down the drain based on Zillow estimates, go right
ahead. A fool and his money are soon parted.

Darrell


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 Post subject: Zillow Zucks
PostPosted: 2006-08-22 12:16:37
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drphilosopher@yahoo.com wrote:
> sim7396@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Zillow rocks! Unless of course, the user is too stupid to understand
> > its limitations.
> Zillow is, at best, useless. But hey, if you want to throw an extra
> $100k of your money down the drain based on Zillow estimates, go right
> ahead. A fool and his money are soon parted.
> Darrell

Read my post again. My point was precisely that its stupid to expect
Zillow to be accurate, therefore you cant make financial decisions
based on it. Its a free informational tool that offers very rough
numbers based on a computer formula. If you have money to invest, you
have to do research yourself and get busy.


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 Post subject: Zillow Zucks
PostPosted: 2006-08-22 15:59:50
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Id say you are better off checking your local county tax appraisals
for the houses that you are interested in. From that, you can decide on
your own.


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 Post subject: Zillow Zucks
PostPosted: 2006-08-22 16:31:24
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zcarenow@yahoo.com wrote:
> Id say you are better off checking your local county tax appraisals
> for the houses that you are interested in. From that, you can decide on
> your own.
>

you mean where you are tax assessments have anything to do with
real life real estate prices? - not here. -

Maren, in Hilo, HI
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